Thread:Impmon101/@comment-30384903-20150819015354

Heyyyyyy first of all Thanks for providing all the chapter titles! I will work on them soon! It's such a huge surprise cuz I def. didn't know that the novellas also have sections (I think the Dangerous Dream I found and read online failed to make that clear lol)

Anyhow, about the two edits I've sort of undone but kept some of your adjustments... not exactly sure where to start so it might be all over the place. I guess first thing, is that, like I've mentioned before, the wording from the "Book description" (or what you've later turned into "Synopsis"), is the exact text from the official site, that includes how the character names are referred as. The adjustments I kept are the punctuations cuz on those sites they use “ and ” instead of just " etc. What's bold and what's italic are also exactly as how the site has them. This section is probably the only one that's entirely safe to do little adjustment since the material is provided by official source, there really is little point of altering it, for I imagine, if you physically buy the book, they should be what's printed on the back of the book? Of course, since the novella aren't published in that format, I am not certain just where the text would go, but back to the point is that it's from official source and if something needs to be fixed, that's probably one of the last thing to worry about.

Secondly, about removing links; yes, since the text is exactly from official source, if reading it from the said source they obviously didn't have the links there, but that's where this wiki's use comes into play. The point of those links is to let readers locate content more easily; for instance, providing the links for Incubus and Mortal, saves people time of searching them by typing or copying and pasting should they forget the definitions and want to look them up. I believe the more links also help buffering the page's SEO (http://thecasterchronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Search_Engine_Optimization#Links) that's why there's Special:Insights/deadendpages to show that those pages I def. in need of improvement. I know after your removal the pages still aren't dead end pages as it still contains some links, but it doesn't take away the fact that it'd be less convenient for the people who'd want to directly click to certain pages about stuff that's been mentioned on the articles.

Then there's the "Interactions with fans" section you've taken out on both articles. I'm curious to know what the reason of this decision is? They are perfectly legit facts and relating to the topic, unique, nonetheless, cuz as far as I'm aware of, the physical books certainly didn't let fans vote for their covers. I've summarize the process from the date it started, ended, the source, and imagery all in one little section. I wouldn't say I'm really good at wording so if someone can concise it even more, that'd be awesome; but I don't get why it'd be better to get rid of the info altogether. It's a process that's relatively significant; after all, should the vote be different, we would have ended up getting a different cover altogether. It also gives fans who've missed out the events a chance to see "what could have been"; idk if it's just me, but I actually had a really hard time to find the runner-up image for TMH (still am not able to find the file, to be exact), so I've learned from that experience and saved the one for TSS early on this time.

Onto a more minor subject... The reason why I named the section as "Book description", is because... like I mentioned, I imagine, should there be a physical book, those texts would be on the back of the book as its description, pretty literal. It is slightly different from "Synopsis" which has the definition of (according to google) "a brief summary or general survey of something.", if you completely summarize something (even if it's brief), you start from the beginning to the middle and then to the end. The section only indicates what the book is generally about, without giving away major content. On the other hand, the definition of "summary" (according to google) is "a brief statement or account of the main points of something." I personally think overall, the ending is considered something main and important, or else why bother finishing the book? So the text doesn't really fully qualify as synopsis or summary; the word that could be used to replace (and actually has been used on some articles on this wiki at one point), is "Blurb", with the definition of being (according to google) "a short description of a book, movie, or other product written for promotional purposes and appearing on the cover of a book or in an advertisement." Do you prefer this word instead? I'm open to changing it! I'm not going to lie, my vocabulary is fairly limited, and I actually didn't know this word until I saw it being used on this wiki, but definition-wise, I do think it's the most appropriate, just that I thought perhaps "book description" is the most straightforward way to go; if you think "blurb" is equally understood by general readers! We can do that instead!

Now, about the actual summary (aka the "Plot" section), sorry that I left it a bit vague. So I was going for something like what the HPW did with w:c:harrypotter:Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire; what I like about it is that it kills two birds with one stone: listing out every chapter titles, while having the summary of each chapter underneath; it makes it a lot easier to check what plot happened at what chapter. The only reason I didn't do exactly what they did and have each chapter as separate subsection (initially I actually did, you can check the edit history of Dangerous Deception) is that comparing to all the HP books, while they may have similar total chapters (ranging from 17-38), the length differs greatly and I thought it'd make little sense to have 30+ subsection all with little to summarize. The series my home wiki is covering actually has the same problem, and after a thorough discussion with another active editor there, we've come up with something like this w:c:inkheart:Inkheart; note that the book has 59 chapters but only has less than 600 pages, meaning every chapter isn't exactly all that long. I thought DD was exceptionally good to test out how it works, like what I've said on one of my edit summaries: "I couldn't figure out away to hide the POV letters on the content table and it looks messy, so I grouped them as I realized there's kinda a pattern going on" (the pattern I was talking about is that out of the 11 sections, 8 of them have the point of view going in this order : Nox → Rid → Link) http://thecasterchronicles.wikia.com/wiki/Dangerous_Deception?diff=next&oldid=13736 11 subsections plus the additional two at the beginning and end (BEFORE and AFTER), 13 subsections seems reasonable, accessible, and convenient enough. Let me know your thoughts? I know it'll take a really, really, really long time to achieve what the HPW have with their book pages, but I think it's a nice goal, cuz I think what's on the plot sections of the four BC books... seems to be directly copied from Wikipedia... not only is that plagiarism, it also doesn't give other people the reason to read the same content on this wiki if they can read it somewhere else.

Sorry, another crisis happened on another wiki just now so I didn't finish editing the post.... Now I'm not really sure if there's something else besides what I've said so far. It'll probably take some time to fully digest everything (I suck at being concise), but I hope you'll get why I made those choices initially, and I would like any suggestion as long as it's making this wiki more accessible/convenient to readers! =D

S a m m m ✦✧ (talk) 05:12, August 19, 2015 (UTC) 